Is there a difference?

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Is there a difference in being a submissive and being a slave?
What do these terms mean to you? Why? :cool:
MsWhip

[lulu]

From what I have been told and what My Master has taught me, a sub. has the choice to say No, that there is guidance and respect.. a slave has no choices

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Hi,
Have you experienced subspace? If so can you describe what you experienced?:)
MsWhip

[lulu]

I don't know what that is lol

[elizabeth h]

Hi,
Have you experienced subspace? If so can you describe what you experienced?:)
MsWhip

I have, a time or two (at least that's all i know to call it!)

It's reaching a point of sensory overload, where what you are experiencing becomes so intense, you can only focus on that, and the world around you kinda "goes away". I think the term "sub" space comes from 2 points; that most often it is the sub receiving the (pain, pleasure, attention, fill-in-your-own-blank)but also that not being in control and knowing another is, you're much more able to let go and allow the altered state, if you will, take over.

An example...i like spankings, hard. And prolonged, rough intercourse, past the point i've quit saying stop i can't take anymore (but never said Red, lol). And also have an exhibitionist side. All this combined one night, and continuing and continuing....i reached a point where i was not aware of anything but euphoric pleasure and my Dom's voice. In what i thought was about 10 minutes, 2 hours had passed. Elephants could have marched by, tornados touched down....i wouldn't have noticed. After rejoining the conscious, i felt as high as i've ever been. It was like 1980's cocaine to the 10th power. (OK, that was a LONG time ago, and besides, i never inhaled....giggles)

Anyone else?

betsi

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Thank you for sharing with us Betsi!!!
Hasnt anyone else on this forum had subspace?
Hell I've even had subspace, lol:eek:

[dream_master]

Miss Whip,
You had sub space? Would you tell us about that? I bet its a great story....

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

:pLol one day when Im feeling really giddy, Ill share! I will state that a pillow and blankie are real nice during subspace!
MsWhip

[Teri]

:pLol one day when Im feeling really giddy, Ill share! I will state that a pillow and blankie are real nice during subspace!
MsWhip
Take it from someone in the know, a pink blankie is always warm and comforting!

Teri

[pizzasex]

A "google" of subspace just took me to some Star-Trek sites!

[dream_master]

Ms. Whip,
I'll have to remember to buy you some champaign sometime. I'd love to get you giddy and hear that story.

J

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Hmmmmm I'm going to keep that in mind!! Oh thats right I'm a non drinker, hehe
Its gonna be a long day coming!!!:p

[gapeach]

aaah.. subspace.. the most delightful place to be!

it's almost like an out of body experience...

i "see" myself enduring the actions.. feel myself kind of floating away.. hears music in my mind.. sees stars behind closed eyes.. knows He is guiding me, and taking care of me, and pushing the limits of my endurance... relenquishing to what He is "giving" me, and knowing that He knows my limits.. and He gently brings me back down to reality.. holding me, soothing me, kissing me..

yes, it is addicting!

and different types of activites bring upon different kinds of space... i recall an instance of inverted suspension at the club.. a first for me and my Roper Gal.. when that final rope was pulled for the inversion, it was like i was bungee jumping off a cliff, with no worries of hitting any bottom ground.. a free falling experience.. free to dance and spin to my hearts content...

i recently have learned what the whole "transferring the pain to pleasure" was about.. actually had my first O during a scene.. it was incredible! i would take the pain, and somehow, i don't know how, turn it in to a "lower region" pleasure.. thinking of the nice sensation between my legs as opposed to the "pain" i was feeling elsewhere.. a truly mind blowing time...

and i will say, that after a great scene, and a wonderful subspace, all my joy seems to just bust outta me by way of happy tears...*grins.. and i always say beforehand, that the tears will be from happy... otherwise, i'd use my safeword!! don't want no sad tears here!!!

sorry for the rambling.. lol.. just got to reminiscing (sp) about subspace!!

*peachie*

[strayangel]

For me being a slave is so much beyond and so different from my experiences with submission. Submission is, and was, a choice, but as a slave I no longer have a choice. Slave is what I am through and through, no choice about it anymore. I chose to be a submissive, but through my experience serving my wonderful Master I evolved into my slavehood.

And, I don’t think I can ever be anything but a slave now. It is a way of being. I am not only slave to my beloved Master, I am slave to my own body, mind and spirit because of my need to serve him, and because of the careful nurturing of the trust that we both enjoy with each other now. And, that came about over time and with lots and lots of communication.

Being my Master’s slave is so all consuming, and personally fulfilling, that I just automatically developed into what I am now. I did not choose it I became it. My Mentors' told me I would when I was new and did not understand. I guess I just had to experience it to understand totally.

To me being my Master's slave means accepting him just as he is without any judgement. For me it means doing the things for him that no one else will do. And rather than being a chore, because of the relationship and communication that we have developed, I can now trust him to do what he says, and he trusts me in the same way.

It took time to realize that I am a natural slave, but that came about by loving him, serving him, and obeying him with joy in my heart.

In Love and In Joy,

stray

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

That's a beautiful way of explaining things!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
MsWhip

[Christopher]

Peachie is right about subspace being like a high. For me it even has a soundtrack in my head. i like to be played with in different ways, but my favorite way is electro. i love The Shock! During this experience i have been so far gone, it wasn't until it was over that i realized what had happened, the euphoria was just that amazing! But you know what else? i realized just how much i could trust my Mistress at the time. She took me so far, but never let go of me so i could always be brought back and safe!

i also agree with strayangel about being submissive meaning it's a choice we've made. i am a strong dominate male in some aspects of my life. i run a merchandise warehouse in Austell and i can't really lead unless i am calling the shots. Years ago i was given the opportunity to be submmissive. my neighbor was a Goddess at The Sanctuary in Atlanta and she said she would just love to break me. At first i said no, but something made me want to let go just a little bit. So i finally said yes and made the choice to submit. i discovered a new side of me i never knew was there. i mean, i knew a girl could always make me do things, but to give them all the control.......it was liberating!
After awhile i came to trust certain Doms over others and asked to be owned and that's when i basically said...if you would have me, i am yours to do with as you please. Take care of me and i will loyally serve you well...thereby making it THEIR choice and not mine.
They get to push my limits and they know who and what i am and the need for safety words is sometimes not needed, because my reactions speak of my limits, because they know their slave well enough.
i missed being owned actually. It seems to bring security. Knowing who you belong to can make you really happy in ways that can not be obtained elsewhere. i go to clubs and gatherings and i play and get played with, but it's not the same...like a quick fix, it does the trick, but leaves you down and wanting.
Man, i talk alot,,,see what happens when you take the gag out!

[brattysslave]

Yes to me the difference is that with Mistress there are no safe words.......no limits........I completly release to her.