bondage.... a means to an end or in and of itself?

[dream_master]

I have a question for the forum...... what are your thoughts on bondage? Is it foreplay to something else or is it the it of itself?

As for me, I love bondage. There are few things as sexy, intimate, and erotic as tieing up a pretty girl. Moving her wrists, pulling the rope between and around her ankles, positioning her thigh just right, wrapping the rope around her elbows and pulling the them tightly together. Then there comes the struggling and molestation. LOL I love it all.

Let me know your thoughts......

J

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

From my experience I have seen two major type of bondage players.

1. Those who are interested in being restrained and like being restrained more than the bondage/tying experience itself.
2. Those who like the entire act of having rope wrapped around them, being restrained and the feeling of helplessness!

As for myself I like it all!

MsWhip:D

[OldBastard]

There are also those that see bondage as foreplay of sorts. A way of really getting the mental aspect engaged.
Kind of like walking up to a woman in a bar and saying....." so...ya wanna do it?"

Just kidding about the pickup line, of course.

[dream_master]

in your example OB isnt that more just like just s&m. I mean aint ya just gonna get yourself hit with a line like that? LOL.

The reason I ask is I've met some who thought bondage wasn't "real" enough. Not sure what she meant exactly. I've chatted with some other doms on the web who kinda scoffed. I am just trying to understand different perspectives. I think bondage is super hott I don't understand how you couldn't. Well, if you aren't 'nillia or anything.

And Ms. Whip, are you saying you like to be tied for that feeling of helplessness AND the feeling of being restrained? Or is it that you like both flavors of bondage subs?

J

[OldBastard]

The BDSM world is much like a menu at a fine restaraunt. Most people will not love everything on the menu, but eventually, everything on the menu will be eaten by someone, 1 by 1. Much like there are a multitude of flavors of ice cream.

Many people are quite content with nothing but bondage, and that is fine. Others want there own favorite "entree". And others want to devour the entire menu, LOL.

[dream_master]

OB, I hear ya. And I reckon much like patrons at a fine restaurant, some of the patrons are snooty.

Vive de la ROPE!!!

J

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Hey Dream Master,

"And Ms. Whip, are you saying you like to be tied for that feeling of helplessness AND the feeling of being restrained? Or is it that you like both flavors of bondage subs"

Well I personally am not into being tied and feeling helpless, haha it's not really one of my things! However, give me rope and a willing victim and waaaala bondage!!!:D

[Beast]

I would have to say that you'll find almost as many answers to your question as there are people on the board.
Sometimes it's difficult to talk about bondage as a single event in itself since many of us intertwine Bondage and S&M to the point where they are practically indistinguishable as a single item.

Throughout my, just about 20 year, walk through the Bondage and Domination, and S&M scene, I have had to sit down and talk to some of the people I've met. I wanted to get into their head so I could understand why they do/enjoy what they do.
I didn't understand their mental process. Many helped me understand, a few could have talked for days and I wouldn't have made the connection. They told me why they did what they do, but personally, I could hear, and somewhat understand, but since I don't posses the mental processes they used, I probably would never understand.

Get a big room of people together that are 'fetish' people and ask the ones to raise their hands if BDSM is sexual to them. You'll have a split of some sort. I suspect the split will lean on one direction or the other depending on what the environment was/is that brought the group together.

Were you looking for a personal view/reply? Well, I'd have to say I'm split on the subject of bondage as foreplay or simply the climax by itself. I have enjoyed binding women purely to watch and enjoy the struggles to free themselves… no,they didn't get loose. I have also enjoyed binding as part of an S&M event/scene that ended with some form of sexual release for one or both of us. For me, it depends on the negotiations, physical attraction and/or expected results prior to the event/scene and how the bottom/sub/slave/etc. mentally processes bondage. I wouldn’t turn down doing a scene with a woman because she only enjoyed a purely bondage event, if that helps answer your question.

I’ll bet someone has a question or two about what I wrote. I enjoy questions, some of them really make you think about yourself, what you enjoy and how you actually think.:D
Beast

I have a question for the forum...... what are your thoughts on bondage? Is it foreplay to something else or is it the it of itself?

J

[dream_master]

thanks Beast. You are right, there are just as many answers as there are people who will answer it. I was looking for all different kinds of views. I was looking for a personal reply. Just the very thing you wrote.

How many other answers you reckon we'll get?

J

[Beast]

Hmmm, I'll play your game. How about 3 more. <chuckle> ...but not immediately.
Beast

thanks Beast. You are right, there are just as many answers as there are people who will answer it. I was looking for all different kinds of views. I was looking for a personal reply. Just the very thing you wrote.

How many other answers you reckon we'll get?

J

[gapeach]

hmm.. not sure if a subbie can respond in here, but here goes....
i looove bondage..
not only the physical aspect of it - the feel of the ropes, cuffs, etc... the inability to move too much...
but the mental aspect of it as well - helpless, vulnerable...

i think bondage is both - it can be very erotic, or it can be more forceful, and i will say, depending on the mood/partner, either one can be such a turn on...at least to me!

as for the "ultimate goal" in bondage, that's up to the individuals involved... is it for the physical side of things, or the mental...

i will say, as far as ropes go, most Ropers have an end "goal" in mind... tie with a purpose, they say... whether the purpose is an erotic pic, or a mind thing, or a more close, physical "encounter"...

just my 2 cents..

*peachie*

[Beast]

HEY!!! There's #1! ...and a good answer. <round of applause>
Beast

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Hey Beast I hope you can make it to Atlanta Bound 2008 in March, there will be a whole lot of bondage goin on!!!
MsWhip

[Beast]

Well Ms. Whip, there's a LOT of turmoil in my life at the moment. I'm hoping a lot of it will calm down toward the end of February. The NASCAR race is the 7-9 March and my wife and I will be camping up there for the race. I'd like to say sure I'll be there, but at the moment I can't commit that far out yet.
You can bet your bottom dollar that if I make it up there for the weekend, I'll make sure you get a proper introduction to me. ;)
Hmmm, are there any campgrounds up near 1763?
Beast

[Mistress Whip Atlanta]

Im not too sure of nearby campgrounds Beast, does anyone else know if campgrounds are nearby?
MsWhip

[gapeach]

hmmm.. interesting.. ok, here's a bottom's point of view...

bondage... the inability to move freely.. *grins - depends on the "Bondee" as to the degree, position, etc.. the feeling of vulnerability, helplessness - quite a turn on..

as far as the method of bondage - i would say that anything will do, and it will, just that it will produce different results... to be tied to the bedposts with neckties - aaah... to be strapped to the cross in leather restraints - ooooh... to be shibari'ed up and swing from the rafters - omg...

shall i expound? lol - going to anyway!!

neckties n bedposts - a more intimate, softly, seductive type bondage..or i guess you could "rough it up" a bit...

leather n the cross... oh my! you KNOW you're headed for a good flogging or something!!

ropes n rings ... this can be a sensual event, or a more "determined" event, nonetheless, thrashing around in ropes midair is just incredible! :)

hope all that helps!

*peachie*

[dream_master]

Thanks P. and yes, as a sub, I was looking for your view point as well.
I know and understand the answer depends on the people involved. What I am looking for is your responce. You are involved, have been involved, will be involved. Write the answer from that view point.
DM

[FurryFury]

I think some people just feel more secure when bound.

There are some like my husband, who love to play a "I can get loose" game.

I saw a demo on ropes and knots once. The energy and trust between the Top and the bottom were so sensual to me that I was thrilled and amazed.

Prior to that, I'd seen it as a rather irritating waste of time. I mean, tell me not to move and I won't. Let's get on with it please. I have to get up in the morning KWIM? LOL.

Now I ache to be able to participate in that kind of slow, sensual and trusting, scene. I no longer see rope work or bondage as a means to an end but as a main event of it's own.

My fav that I've actually done, I used saran wrap to immobilize my husband. That was quite sensual and fun for us both.